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Hey hey. I have been so uninvolved in fandom that I forgot that I signed up for remix and I forgot that I finished some stories, wtf. Best get on that.

So on FFA people are talking about how terrible Marvel fandom is. Having come of age in Harry Potter fandom, I find myself thinking "Naw gurl, naw." The part of LJ/DW fic culture I'm familiar with has always been pretty civilized (outside of pits like FFR), and generally speaking, I think it's gotten less critical over the years, and far more cult of nice, at least as far as writing criticism goes.

I haven't had an outstandingly mean comment on a story since I was in Smallville (and shit, that was one limpass flame), and I'm all about readers being encouraged to respond however they please. Certainly I prefer long, detailed reviews and conversations, but I make no bones about welcoming criticism. Flames even--the most I'll do is some flocked loling. But the flames haven't come. Reviewers in Marvel and Supernatural fandoms have been unfailingly polite. Granted, I'm an unproductive, uncontroversial, non-porny NNF, but in HP everyone took some bad hits. Whether it was your first ever story, or your thirtieth, someone would pop out of the woodwork to call you a delusional hack and request that you die in a fire, posthaste.

Between YKINMK, "Stories are gifts!" and the widely accepted assumption that readers should ask before giving constructive criticism, or posting public reviews, there simply isn't a lot of room for actually talking about writing. Let it happen on anon memes. Haters gonna hate, and most everyone else is pretty damn nice.


*Consider these comments as separate from the Avengers troll issue.

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I've never been really into comics fandom, but I think a large part of why I split so much with western media fandoms is because of the whole you have to be nice and accepting of everyone. It just bugs me that there is no space for telling someone that there is a problem with their work, and if you do people tend to jump on you.

I don't find it a hardship to be nice to people. That's easy enough. I do get annoyed by the expectation that nothing critical can be said, unless specifically requested. Unless you've got a disclaimer, how am I supposed to know your preferred mode of fandom interaction? "No con-crit" isn't assumed in all fandoms--it's mostly a feature of LJ/DW Western tv fandoms.

I don't mind being nice, but there's a point that questioning or concrit becomes unacceptable in certain fandoms that I find really offputting. The most extreme cases seem to allow no room for dissent no matter how nicely you phrase it. I just don't comment on things anymore since I'm not sure how it will be taken, but then remember how that became an issue that everyone should comment because they owed it to the writer? I really feel like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't in those places and pretty much left. It helps that university eats up most of my life at least.

I get that. There've been some fandom crowds that I've had to leave because I didn't like the way the culture was going. Outside of communities that are specifically designed to foster particular types of dialogue (safe spaces, 101 comms) I think there should be as few 'rules' applied to conversation and fannish interaction as is possible. I was also, when that conversation was fresh, vehemently opposed to fic-as-gifts, and readers-owe-feedback. I think that's a really self-serving attitude, and unrealistic to boot.

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